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Publicly Fat in Australia - Part 3

The following story was submitted by BFB member rainalee.

Continued from part 2.

You read to gain knowledge and maybe even understanding of the other. In return you can ask what you always wanted to know. But beware that the book is reading you as much as you are reading the book...

-- Living Library on "readers"

I was 'borrowed' almost straight away by a petite, beautiful woman from Indonesia, who wanted to know what it was like being me. She assumed I wouldn't be able to do most things (go to the cinema, fly on planes, go swimming) and was surprised to hear I had done/was doing all those things. After asking me quite a lot of questions, she shared with me her childhood when she was ten kg lighter than her current weight, and how her parents wouldn't let her eat dinner because she would 'get fat'. Instead she watched everyone else eat and was given a half glass of milk. She was very open to understanding that our notions of 'normal' and 'average' were not probably correct, and that people came in all shapes and sizes.

The 'librarian' actually had to stop our conversation as I was 'booked' for my next session! And so it went - I was busy for the whole time!

I had a wide variety of people 'read' me - from a woman who was quite tall/thin and said she varied in weight up and down ten kg, but how she hated herself when she was at the high end and didn't know how to stop wasting the energy on it -- she wanted to know how I had moved from being focused on body size to just getting on with life -- to a self-confessed exercise fanatic who at first didn't understand how I could be fat while having had such a history of 'successful' dieting (i.e. long periods of very little calorific intake), but was very, very open to listen, and ended up saying she wanted to get back to me and support the idea of a HAES group on campus(!).

Another person I talked with was an 18-year old recovering anorexic/bulimic who wanted to talk to me about body acceptance in teens, and wants to eventually go out into the schools and talk to teens about body image and acceptance, discrimination, and how healthy bodies are all shapes and sizes.

Most were shocked when I said I had received insults, attacks, been belittled by people I didn't know, abused by doctors.

One of the women who talked to me was talking about stereotypes, and I said that people had assumed that I was dirty, smelly, un-organised, out of control and unintelligent. Her response was, "Well, I can understand the first things...but you are so not unintelligent!" and then she realised what she said.

I said, "Well, actually, I'm none of the other things either," (with a smile, because I knew she didn't mean it as an insult) and just paused for a moment. I could see the proverbial penny drop for her. Because even though she considered herself as enlightened, she had bought into all those stereotypes.

She told me afterwards that she assumed I spoke regularly to groups about fat acceptance, and when I said it was my first time, she was stunned. She told me I should!

There was a lot of discussion about the media's connection of 'health' with 'losing weight,' and people were quite open to believe that a fat person can be healthy - mainly because they probably see me doing a lot of stuff around campus and I'm obviously not unhealthy.

The second-last person I talked to was a fat woman who was bigger and taller than I am. I have actually spoken to her a little around campus before, but we haven't really talked about the experience of being fat. This was the hardest session for me.

She came to the session to talk to another fat person about how terrible the New South Wales government was because it won't put WLS on the public health scheme...so she can't afford it. "And I just need to get the weight off. If I got the weight off, I could do so much...you know what I mean - you are there, you are feeling the same things," (argh.)

I wasn't even sure what to say to her, because I have so been there, but I'm so not there anymore! I did mention that maybe in her quest to be 'healthier' (her euphemism for losing weight), that having weight loss surgery with its poor 'success'-rate, and myriad complications, she would end up unhealthier than she was at the moment.

I tried to bring it back to acceptance so many times, but realised she wasn't hearing me (which was very frustrating). So I found some common ground (inability to buy clothes in our town) and shared what I had done to fix that (buying from Ebay/online sites), and then talked about being proactive in changing circumstances -- instead of waiting to 'get thin' before doing anything.

I think I did help a little and I promised to give her some resources - one of which was the book If Not Dieting, Then What?, which started me on the path to acceptance that I was fat, and not a thin person trapped in a fat body. I know the book is not perfect, by any means, but it helped put a big chink in my armour, and has for other people I know as well, so I thought it might be a good starting-point for her, since she just was on a totally different plane than where I am currently.

But I did battle in my head afterwards, wondering if I said the right things to people, whether I did educate in any way, whether I helped. And the day afterwards I had a bingeing episode which was just nuts (haven't done that in years!) I don't know whether it was a reaction, or if thinking about it all just catapulted me back into that mindset, or what. But I'm ok now, and back to believing that it was a very positive experience. It helped that the people who participated were there to confront their own prejudices, and were open (mostly.)

There was recognition amongst the 'librarians' that I was the book that was most likely to receive negative reactions, and they were quite concerned about me afterwards, offering me counseling if I needed it (!), but I told them I was fine, and the people were great.

'Readers' gave feedback to the librarians that they had been really challenged and had changed their minds about quite a few things. It was confronting, challenging, positive and negative, all rolled up into one. And if I had the chance to do it again, I would, like a shot.

There seems to be so little FA in Australia – it’s just not heard about here (at least not where I am!) I think people look at me as though I’m crazy when I first say that I’m not on a diet, and have no intention of being on one. I don’t think of myself as brave. It’s just like I’ve woken up from a bad dream and finally ‘get it.'

I wish there were more opportunities to talk to people about this. Too often it's because someone abuses me, tries to tell me I should be dieting, suggests WLS or similar…and then I get defensive. This was completely different, and was really good.

Someone said to me before I did this, that it was great that I was going to be 'publicly fat,' and that just stuck with me as such a wonderful phrase. So during the living library when people asked me if I spoke like this other times I said "no, this is my first time being publicly fat!" and then laughed (because of course I'm publicly fat all the time, because I'm fat and I'm out there doing stuff!)

It made me think that all of us that are out there, just living our lives and getting on with it instead of obsessing on limitations, abusive people, diets, etc., are being some sort of activists whether we realise it or not -- because we are speaking with our lives.
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The Living Library started in Denmark as a project to fight prejudice and discrimination. If you're interested in hosting a Living Library in your town, you can find information at The Living Library website.

I'm not sure how many online fat acceptance advocates go somewhat incognito in their everyday lives, but I know that in many situations, I certainly do. It's not something I feel comfortable talking about with just anyone in just any setting.

However, on the few occasions when I've had a chance to speak in front of a crowd about fat acceptance, I've been terrified beforehand that I will be pelted with rotten tomatoes, and accused of "promoting obesity." The remarkable thing is? That never happens. I can't guarantee the same experience for everyone, but the response has always been overwhelmingly positive, and any criticism has been far more polite than imagined -- and definitely more civil than online.

I think rainalee's point about speaking with our lives is absolutely correct. But for those of you who are so inclined, I enthusiastically, maniacally encourage you to try giving a talk, or doing a project that involves sharing your experiences as a fat person, and introducing the idea of acceptance. It can be scary, but ultimately I think it's good for you, and it's good for the world.

After reading this whole story, I only have one thing to say to rainalee: You kick ass.

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Tiana August 20th, 2008 | Link | This is wonderful, and I

This is wonderful, and I think your "That never happens" speaks volumes. Sure, there are assholes in real life ... but they're not nearly as "brave" as the trolls think they are. I've spoken to people who would just not "get it" no matter what I said, but they were ignorant rather than hateful.

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IggyGrrl
August 20th, 2008 | Link | I am so happy that it turned

I am so happy that it turned out to be a positive experience -- not just for you but for everyone who spoke to you. I hope you planted a seed of tolerance that they will take out into the world.

And now I have a question: is rabid fat-hatred an Australian hallmark?

I ask this because I belong to another website for Marine Corps wives. We are all very close, as people will get when they've supported each other through a lot of life-changing events. We know a lot about each other's lives.

Well, there's one woman on the board who is Australian. She is obnoxious in a lot of ways that don't have anything to do with being Austrailian (she makes a lot of money and is always telling people how much fun it is to live in a big house, drive a Mercedes, have a nanny and a maid, etc.) but her biggest thing is that she hates fat people. She is an exercise fanatic and loves to insult women on the board who are overweight. If you get into a scrap with her about anything (she gets into a lot of scraps because she is so brusque and totally lacks compassion) and she knows you are overweight, that's the first thing she pulls out -- "Why don't you go for a run, fatty?" She recently had a baby and went way out of her way to let all the women on the board know that she continued running and dieting all through her pregnancy and only gained about 20 pounds, which she took off immediately after giving birth.

I know these women so well, and they've supported me through so much, and I don't dare say a word about my journey to body-acceptance on this board because I know this Australian woman will attack me and call me ugly names. It's both sad and frustrating.

So I am wondering now if there is some kind of national anti-fat thing going on with Australians or what? I'm not trying to be insulting but my experience with this woman has been so bad, and now reading what you've said about the living library, that I have to wonder.

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sevendayswonder
August 20th, 2008 | Link | Yes! When you kept saying

Yes! When you kept saying "publicly fat", I loved it! I want to put it on a t-shirt.

I'm really glad that overall the experience was good for you and that you were able to make a difference. These kinds of things are absolutely scary sometimes, but it sounds like you did an amazing job.

rainalee August 20th, 2008 | Link | IggyGrrl It sounds like the

IggyGrrl It sounds like the Australian woman you know is just not a very nice person! And those exist in all countries.
I wouldn't say that most people here are rabidly anti-fat but some are. Aussies like to think of ourselves as a great sporting nation, with lots of fit, thin people (bikini babes, fit and thin swimming champions etc), and the reality is that there have always been fat people here in about the same proportions.
But with all the media hype about fat != healthy lately. more people believe they have a right to comment on others' body size, or try to shame them into losing weight. And the Aussie media appear to be going crazy lately with the 'obesity epidemic' stories.

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moxie3
August 20th, 2008 | Link | I've enjoyed your continuing

I've enjoyed your continuing story about your library book. When you were talking about the other fat woman who seemed to be more obsessed about WLS and how you just couldn't get through to her I understood that completely. I still am a regular person in my WLS forum and am not always making statements there that are appreciated but sometimes I just can't help myself, lol. The hardest people I've dealt with there were from Australia and I never knew why but that fitness aspect maybe why.

I also completely understand that binge episode you seemed to have afterwards because many times when I am in a forum like the WLS one that I probably need to just stay away from but since I still have the band and have some issues I suppose I do lurk. Sometimes after either being attacked there or reading something upsetting there it tends to put a dent in my FA shield. I guess that sounds kind of dumb but don't know how else to explain it. Maybe when you're having self doubts it's people like that who you think are on your same level as she was large size also but then she feels so bad about her size it makes you doubt yourself too sometimes. I know realistically that this forum is the total opposite of the WLS forum but when I first began with FA I kind of was giving out information at times with others who were like me who were having problems after surgery. Of course they are not the only ones who will respond to a post and that's when attacks tend to happen. And as you know this forum obviously is not WLS or diet friendly neither is a WLS forum FA friendly.

Anyway I really appreciate your story and it's a courageous thing for you to do and as you've seen women, I'm assuming it was mainly women, of all sizes have issues with their bodies even if we assume they don't just by looking and comparing. Keep up the good work moxie3! Smiling

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MichMurphy
August 21st, 2008 | Link | The part (well, one of the

The part (well, one of the parts) I find really interesting in rainalee's account is about how her toughest moments came in talking to another fat woman, and how deeply it affected her afterward.

All I can say is, I've been there -- oftentimes the people who are least able to even tolerate the idea that such a thing as fat acceptance exists are, themselves, fat. I attribute that to internalized oppression, and it can be very difficult to deal with, but at the same time, you can't fairly blame those people for the mindset they're in. I imagine we all, at some point, were in the same place, just as rainalee says she was "so there" at one point, but is "so not there anymore!"

Thanks again, rainalee, for doing this project, and letting us post your story. I think it's an incredibly important experience to share with people.

bugj9 August 21st, 2008 | Link | Rainalee, thank you for

Rainalee, thank you for sharing this. I think it's incredible that you did it, and ummm actually find it kind of surprising that there were so many people who wanted to "borrow" you. I think, in my head, others hate fat people, with no tolerance or interest in learning anything about us, and it's wonderful to see that your experience was so not that way. Thanks for taking the time to write about this.

rainalee August 22nd, 2008 | Link | bugj9 I actually took along

bugj9 I actually took along some work to do because I thought I would be just sitting there for a few hours and twiddling my thumbs but instead the "librarian" had to come cart each person away because there was the next person booked in to "read" me ... I was so surprised!

And MichMurphy put this together (with my blessing) from the posts I made in the forum, so thanks Mich and thanks to everyone else for the support! Smiling

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DeeLeigh
August 23rd, 2008 | Link | I just want to say that this

I just want to say that this is great stuff, and very important. Thanks for bravely doing the "book" thing and telling us about it, Rainalee. And, thanks for posting it on the front page, Mich.

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waitingforrescue.
August 24th, 2008 | Link | rainalee, you are amazing!

rainalee, you are amazing! Thanks for sharing your story, I'm glad it was a great experience for you.

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