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Absolutes

  • We will promote positive, diverse body images in the media.
  • We demand equality - equal pay, equal treatment, and equal opportunity - in the workplace.
  • We have the right to decent, preventive, and comprehensive health care, without doctors and the medical industry forcing us to lose weight before receiving treatment.
  • We will fight the cultural prejudices that fat people are lazy, gluttonous, weak-willed, and stupid.
  • We reject the notion that better health necessitates thinness and weight loss.
  • We do not need to justify our sizes.

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Natalie May 24th, 2005 | Link | Forever and ever, amen.
Forever and ever, amen.
nellicat May 24th, 2005 | Link | Really, who could argue with
Really, who could argue with that? I mean, even the most zealous anti-fat folks have to see the wisdom of those statements . . . don't they?
Terri May 24th, 2005 | Link | Amen!
Amen!
jeni May 24th, 2005 | Link | Yes, yes and yes.
Yes, yes and yes.
antidieter May 24th, 2005 | Link | sounds good to me! RR
sounds good to me! RR
LLW May 24th, 2005 | Link | excellent. But the editor in
excellent. But the editor in me (sorry paul!) wants to fiddle with "* We reject the notion that better health necessitates thinness and weight loss." That could be read by some as "it's of course a reasonable notion, and we're having a gluttonous tantrum by rejecting it." So I'm trying to figure out an edit that points out it's the simple scientific truth we're supporting. Dunno how ("fallacy" rather than "notion"? "We and science reject"?) just a thought
profe May 24th, 2005 | Link | Like LLW, I have a little
Like LLW, I have a little problem with the "We reject" line. I would keep "thinness" and drop "weight loss". That's because just trying to lose weight can improve health, even if you don't lose any. The sensible things that people do to lose weight --more exercise, more fruits and vegetables, less saturated fat and red meat --are all healthy things. They aren't healthy BECAUSE they help you lose weight, they are healthy AND IN AN UNRELATED MANNER also may cause some small amount of weight loss.
hojoki May 24th, 2005 | Link | Great absolutes! By the
Great absolutes! By the way, I like the word "notion" as it really expresses the inherent foolishness present in the argument that better health can be achieved by losing weight or by being thin. A fallacy is more of an idea formed by faulty reasoning and, IMO, most folks out there don't arrive at the above misconceptions through reasoning but by accepting a notion, and I think the best way to deal with such things is to reject them.
Fatshadow May 24th, 2005 | Link | I do feel a need for a
I do feel a need for a tantrum when someone makes my weight a central issue of my health. Heh. Iím OK with the reject language but it is a negative. Maybe it could be flipped. Like. Weight alone as a standard for health is imprecise and simplistic. And/or. We can be healthy at any size.
Fatshadow May 24th, 2005 | Link | We affirm that we can be
We affirm that we can be healthy at any size.
LLW May 25th, 2005 | Link | yeah! thanks, fatshadow, I
yeah! thanks, fatshadow, I agree, that's good. Funny, it's one of those principles of clear writing, too, if you can state something in the affirmative, do so.
blissing May 25th, 2005 | Link | I like it, Paul, and thanks!
I like it, Paul, and thanks! I think number 4 and number 6 are at odds with each other, though. I could see getting into an argument with someone about how I'm not lazy, thereby trying to justify my size.

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